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		By: obispan		</title>
		<link>https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-218056</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[obispan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2019 15:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217651&quot;&gt;unlisted&lt;/a&gt;.

OK, no math.  A bedroom has a maximum of one door to the interior of the unit and a maximum of one door to the outside with no fixed or building integrated (ceiling tracked) interior partitions other than for closets or bathrooms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217651">unlisted</a>.</p>
<p>OK, no math.  A bedroom has a maximum of one door to the interior of the unit and a maximum of one door to the outside with no fixed or building integrated (ceiling tracked) interior partitions other than for closets or bathrooms.</p>
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		By: Boldguy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boldguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2019 13:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think this is actually what the law is intended to allow!
The State threw out many of the obstacles that disallowed secondary units, parking being the biggest one, as long as the unit was within a certain distance from public transportation!!
It also prevents municipalities from using utility service and fire sprinkler as a way to stop development of these units!!!
When I perused the State Law, it seemed to me that any house can be converted to a duplex and municipalities have little or no say in the matter, that&#039;s why the law was written!!!
The article by Mr Cooper is the type of Nimby-ism that the State is trying to stop, like it or hate it, it&#039;s upon us now.
What&#039;s surprising to me is that this is just coming to the forefront in this County, it;s been happening in Santa Barbara county for some time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is actually what the law is intended to allow!<br />
The State threw out many of the obstacles that disallowed secondary units, parking being the biggest one, as long as the unit was within a certain distance from public transportation!!<br />
It also prevents municipalities from using utility service and fire sprinkler as a way to stop development of these units!!!<br />
When I perused the State Law, it seemed to me that any house can be converted to a duplex and municipalities have little or no say in the matter, that&#8217;s why the law was written!!!<br />
The article by Mr Cooper is the type of Nimby-ism that the State is trying to stop, like it or hate it, it&#8217;s upon us now.<br />
What&#8217;s surprising to me is that this is just coming to the forefront in this County, it;s been happening in Santa Barbara county for some time.</p>
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		By: mercut1469		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2019 03:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217775&quot;&gt;citizensoldier&lt;/a&gt;.

You know, it&#039;s an interesting chart. The problem is that you have to actually live in Mississippi or Alabama or Louisiana to take advantage of the couple of dollars advantage you might gain. No thanks. The central coast of California is easily the best place in the world, in my opinion. 

I&#039;m not sure why citizensoldier even cares about this stuff unless he&#039;s moving. If that&#039;s the case he should report back and tell us about the sweltering humidity, bugs the size of cats or the stifling poverty. I&#039;m not sure he understands the difference between the poverty we face here—a group of unfortunates who live in their cars and sometimes hang around stores—with the systematic poverty and decrepit living conditions which pervade corridors of the old south.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217775">citizensoldier</a>.</p>
<p>You know, it&#8217;s an interesting chart. The problem is that you have to actually live in Mississippi or Alabama or Louisiana to take advantage of the couple of dollars advantage you might gain. No thanks. The central coast of California is easily the best place in the world, in my opinion. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why citizensoldier even cares about this stuff unless he&#8217;s moving. If that&#8217;s the case he should report back and tell us about the sweltering humidity, bugs the size of cats or the stifling poverty. I&#8217;m not sure he understands the difference between the poverty we face here—a group of unfortunates who live in their cars and sometimes hang around stores—with the systematic poverty and decrepit living conditions which pervade corridors of the old south.</p>
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		By: citizensoldier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[citizensoldier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2019 20:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217638&quot;&gt;citizensoldier&lt;/a&gt;.

https://considerable.com/how-far-your-money-goes-in-each-state/

Very interesting chart.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217638">citizensoldier</a>.</p>
<p><a href="https://considerable.com/how-far-your-money-goes-in-each-state/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://considerable.com/how-far-your-money-goes-in-each-state/</a></p>
<p>Very interesting chart.</p>
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		By: citizensoldier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[citizensoldier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217657&quot;&gt;Latte2Party&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;As a community, as a state and a nation, we need to urgently focus on public transportation that makes it more convenient and cost effective than owning, fixing, gassing and storing a car.&quot;

You mean like this?:
https://reason.com/2019/02/14/californias-bullet-train-project-doesnt/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217657">Latte2Party</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;As a community, as a state and a nation, we need to urgently focus on public transportation that makes it more convenient and cost effective than owning, fixing, gassing and storing a car.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean like this?:<br />
<a href="https://reason.com/2019/02/14/californias-bullet-train-project-doesnt/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://reason.com/2019/02/14/californias-bullet-train-project-doesnt/</a></p>
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		By: Latte2Party		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Latte2Party]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 17:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would think that it has become obvious that making more room for cars is not solving much of anything. Just one of many examples; Houston, in their downtown area, expanded the Interstate from 11 to 24 lanes. Result? Traffic got worse! We keep spending gazillions on adding pavement and pollution and we now have our very own parking lot on US 101 every afternoon. As a community, as a state and a nation, we need to urgently focus on public transportation that makes it more convenient and cost effective than owning, fixing, gassing and storing a car.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that it has become obvious that making more room for cars is not solving much of anything. Just one of many examples; Houston, in their downtown area, expanded the Interstate from 11 to 24 lanes. Result? Traffic got worse! We keep spending gazillions on adding pavement and pollution and we now have our very own parking lot on US 101 every afternoon. As a community, as a state and a nation, we need to urgently focus on public transportation that makes it more convenient and cost effective than owning, fixing, gassing and storing a car.</p>
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		By: unlisted		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[unlisted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 05:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217647&quot;&gt;obispan&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t confuse them with math!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://new.calcoastnews.com/2019/10/more-poor-planning-by-slo-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-217647">obispan</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t confuse them with math!</p>
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		By: derasmus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[derasmus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 04:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Heidi and the Hipsters at it again]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heidi and the Hipsters at it again</p>
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		By: obispan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[obispan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 03:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Based on the City&#039;s interpretation that a 12 x 24 room divided by a sliding wall into 2 bedrooms with separate entrances is one 288 sf bedroom for parking purposes could you not argue that a 12 x 240 room with eight sliding walls and ten entrances is one 2880 sf bedroom?  Why not?  You&#039;d have to ask Heidi how much that will cost in contributions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the City&#8217;s interpretation that a 12 x 24 room divided by a sliding wall into 2 bedrooms with separate entrances is one 288 sf bedroom for parking purposes could you not argue that a 12 x 240 room with eight sliding walls and ten entrances is one 2880 sf bedroom?  Why not?  You&#8217;d have to ask Heidi how much that will cost in contributions.</p>
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		By: Murse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Murse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 00:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is sad. Why have Architectural Review Commission and Planning Commission if the City Council can override their decisions? There was a time when Carlyn Christianson supported our those commissions and accepted their expertise. Gomez and Harmon will ALWAYS vote pro-housing, pro-bike. Time to think about new candidates for 2020.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sad. Why have Architectural Review Commission and Planning Commission if the City Council can override their decisions? There was a time when Carlyn Christianson supported our those commissions and accepted their expertise. Gomez and Harmon will ALWAYS vote pro-housing, pro-bike. Time to think about new candidates for 2020.</p>
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		By: citizensoldier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[citizensoldier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 22:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poor citizenship begets poor representation, which begets poor behavior that leads to poor judgment ultimately yielding poor planning that will lead to poorer people. 

Breaking the grip of apathy is a very good solution for &quot;We the People.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor citizenship begets poor representation, which begets poor behavior that leads to poor judgment ultimately yielding poor planning that will lead to poorer people. </p>
<p>Breaking the grip of apathy is a very good solution for &#8220;We the People.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Lmo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lmo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 21:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bye bye SLO, hello Costa Mesa. Big fish, little pond syndrome wins again....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bye bye SLO, hello Costa Mesa. Big fish, little pond syndrome wins again&#8230;.</p>
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