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		By: Josey Wales		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josey Wales]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 05:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Folks,

I plan to vote Yes on Proposition 62.

I do not know even one person who thinks the War on Cannabis is successful, and it is time to end this silly prohibition.  Please understand that I do not consume intoxicants of any kind, and I am not supporting Prop 62 out of any personal agenda.

Use money from taxing cannabis to educate, treat and prevent substance abuse, including alcohol.

Just saying,

Josey]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks,</p>
<p>I plan to vote Yes on Proposition 62.</p>
<p>I do not know even one person who thinks the War on Cannabis is successful, and it is time to end this silly prohibition.  Please understand that I do not consume intoxicants of any kind, and I am not supporting Prop 62 out of any personal agenda.</p>
<p>Use money from taxing cannabis to educate, treat and prevent substance abuse, including alcohol.</p>
<p>Just saying,</p>
<p>Josey</p>
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		By: L.A.RamsFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.A.RamsFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 04:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://new.calcoastnews.com/2016/09/not-just-pot-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-184703&quot;&gt;Vagabond&lt;/a&gt;.

And the absolute bliss one feels when sitting on your porch burnin&#039; a fat one with no fear of &quot;police intervention&quot;? Liberating isn&#039;t definitive enough... I still find myself trying to hide it when a Klamath County Sheriff cruises by and I caused a laugh riot to break out when I staged the a-typical tight-ass Californian scared shitless dance routine trying to get rid of my pipe at Topsey Park when a State Trooper pulled in, I swear I saw the Trooper laugh too! 

I grow my own by-the-way! That&#039;s the way I fight &quot;The War on Drugs&quot;! The cartels hate states like Oregon and really dislike  folks like me. That&#039;s okay, California and those other states still stuck on &quot;Just Say No&quot; will keep them in the black with plenty of liquid assets to purchase more guns and ammo with....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://new.calcoastnews.com/2016/09/not-just-pot-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-184703">Vagabond</a>.</p>
<p>And the absolute bliss one feels when sitting on your porch burnin&#8217; a fat one with no fear of &#8220;police intervention&#8221;? Liberating isn&#8217;t definitive enough&#8230; I still find myself trying to hide it when a Klamath County Sheriff cruises by and I caused a laugh riot to break out when I staged the a-typical tight-ass Californian scared shitless dance routine trying to get rid of my pipe at Topsey Park when a State Trooper pulled in, I swear I saw the Trooper laugh too! </p>
<p>I grow my own by-the-way! That&#8217;s the way I fight &#8220;The War on Drugs&#8221;! The cartels hate states like Oregon and really dislike  folks like me. That&#8217;s okay, California and those other states still stuck on &#8220;Just Say No&#8221; will keep them in the black with plenty of liquid assets to purchase more guns and ammo with&#8230;.</p>
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		By: miles archer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miles archer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 03:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://new.calcoastnews.com/2016/09/not-just-pot-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-184701&quot;&gt;rukidding&lt;/a&gt;.

The Evergreen State calls bull$#!t on so many levels.

Here in Washington there has NOT been an increase in, as you put it, &#039;related crimes&#039;.  The REAL issue here, and I KNOW it&#039;s a problem in SLO county, is meth.

Now our LEO has MORE resources to put into the fight against meth instead of wasting resources on pot.

You mention &quot;dealers&quot;...you know what, the dealers are out of business here. The criminal element is into meth, not weed. NO ONE is buying cannabis from &quot;dealers&quot;, and therefore do not support the black market.

&quot;Crime spree&quot;?  Hahahahaha....you&#039;re joking right? Again, tweekers...yes. Stoners...no. 

Might I recommend something for your enlightenment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRBAZJ4lF0U]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://new.calcoastnews.com/2016/09/not-just-pot-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-184701">rukidding</a>.</p>
<p>The Evergreen State calls bull$#!t on so many levels.</p>
<p>Here in Washington there has NOT been an increase in, as you put it, &#8216;related crimes&#8217;.  The REAL issue here, and I KNOW it&#8217;s a problem in SLO county, is meth.</p>
<p>Now our LEO has MORE resources to put into the fight against meth instead of wasting resources on pot.</p>
<p>You mention &#8220;dealers&#8221;&#8230;you know what, the dealers are out of business here. The criminal element is into meth, not weed. NO ONE is buying cannabis from &#8220;dealers&#8221;, and therefore do not support the black market.</p>
<p>&#8220;Crime spree&#8221;?  Hahahahaha&#8230;.you&#8217;re joking right? Again, tweekers&#8230;yes. Stoners&#8230;no. </p>
<p>Might I recommend something for your enlightenment: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRBAZJ4lF0U" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRBAZJ4lF0U</a></p>
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		By: miles archer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miles archer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 03:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a few points:

1)  As a current resident of Washington state, I can tell you that you are misinformed when you state: &quot;those legal states are not seeing the taxes they were promised. The money is going to the wealthy investors and not to society as projected.&quot; Unsubstantiated hyperbole!

2)  If you&#039;d like to see a real documentary series about cannabis, view the CNN-produced 3-part series by Dr. Sanjay Gupta. 

3)  Will you next attempt to scare people off alcoholic beverages that are of a higher alcohol content? Just like liquor, there is marijuana of varying strengths...and yet, we haven&#039;t seen ONE documented overdose fatality related to cannabis...BUT, 6 people a DAY die from alcohol poisoning!
http://www.cdc.gov/media/dpk/2015/dpk-vs-alcohol-poisoning.html

4) And finally, I&#039;m curious who is funding your fearmongering. What a waste of your time and resources Ms Belsher. This is the age of the informed citizen...the populace is too smart to buy what you&#039;re peddling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few points:</p>
<p>1)  As a current resident of Washington state, I can tell you that you are misinformed when you state: &#8220;those legal states are not seeing the taxes they were promised. The money is going to the wealthy investors and not to society as projected.&#8221; Unsubstantiated hyperbole!</p>
<p>2)  If you&#8217;d like to see a real documentary series about cannabis, view the CNN-produced 3-part series by Dr. Sanjay Gupta. </p>
<p>3)  Will you next attempt to scare people off alcoholic beverages that are of a higher alcohol content? Just like liquor, there is marijuana of varying strengths&#8230;and yet, we haven&#8217;t seen ONE documented overdose fatality related to cannabis&#8230;BUT, 6 people a DAY die from alcohol poisoning!<br />
<a href="http://www.cdc.gov/media/dpk/2015/dpk-vs-alcohol-poisoning.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cdc.gov/media/dpk/2015/dpk-vs-alcohol-poisoning.html</a></p>
<p>4) And finally, I&#8217;m curious who is funding your fearmongering. What a waste of your time and resources Ms Belsher. This is the age of the informed citizen&#8230;the populace is too smart to buy what you&#8217;re peddling.</p>
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		By: RonHolt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RonHolt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 02:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://new.calcoastnews.com/2016/09/not-just-pot-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-184701&quot;&gt;rukidding&lt;/a&gt;.

Many (most?) of Ms. Belcher&#039;s &quot;facts&quot; are either distortions, half-truths or completely false.  It makes me wonder what her real agenda is that she is willing to go so far to deceive people.   I also question how objective and honest the seminar she is promoting will be.  I am usually willing to listen to both sides -- but not when one is dishonest.   

The long-standing scare tactics used by opponents of legalization have been widely rejected by a large section of the population that has tried marijuana.  The credibility of those who keep making these arguments in the face of both facts and widespread personal experience is NIL.   

You refer to the increased potency of pot today.  That is true.  It is very much like the difference between hard liquor and beer.  What happens is that people using it adjust the volume they consume to get the desired effect.  If they don&#039;t need a lot to get high (or free of pain), they won&#039;t use a lot.  There is an economic incentive for this as well -- just as there is for not downing a $30 bottle of liquor all at once if you get a good buzz on a couple of shots.  

There is no credible evidence that either crime or accidents increase with increased pot usage.   I believe it could be possible that the accident rate might go up but so far it has not in CO &#038; WA.  The crime rate should actually go down as the incentive for criminals to be in the business of selling drugs disappears.  

This is not to say that marijuana use is generally a good thing.  In some medical cases it is better than than the alternatives.  For non-medical use it is no worse than alcohol and legalization is certainly better than growing the criminal class by outlawing it.  Use by youth should remain illegal because not enough is known about the effects on brain development yet but the focus should be on education and treatment -- not punishment.  (My personal experience from 40+ years ago is that it does diminish drive and ambition.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://new.calcoastnews.com/2016/09/not-just-pot-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-184701">rukidding</a>.</p>
<p>Many (most?) of Ms. Belcher&#8217;s &#8220;facts&#8221; are either distortions, half-truths or completely false.  It makes me wonder what her real agenda is that she is willing to go so far to deceive people.   I also question how objective and honest the seminar she is promoting will be.  I am usually willing to listen to both sides &#8212; but not when one is dishonest.   </p>
<p>The long-standing scare tactics used by opponents of legalization have been widely rejected by a large section of the population that has tried marijuana.  The credibility of those who keep making these arguments in the face of both facts and widespread personal experience is NIL.   </p>
<p>You refer to the increased potency of pot today.  That is true.  It is very much like the difference between hard liquor and beer.  What happens is that people using it adjust the volume they consume to get the desired effect.  If they don&#8217;t need a lot to get high (or free of pain), they won&#8217;t use a lot.  There is an economic incentive for this as well &#8212; just as there is for not downing a $30 bottle of liquor all at once if you get a good buzz on a couple of shots.  </p>
<p>There is no credible evidence that either crime or accidents increase with increased pot usage.   I believe it could be possible that the accident rate might go up but so far it has not in CO &amp; WA.  The crime rate should actually go down as the incentive for criminals to be in the business of selling drugs disappears.  </p>
<p>This is not to say that marijuana use is generally a good thing.  In some medical cases it is better than than the alternatives.  For non-medical use it is no worse than alcohol and legalization is certainly better than growing the criminal class by outlawing it.  Use by youth should remain illegal because not enough is known about the effects on brain development yet but the focus should be on education and treatment &#8212; not punishment.  (My personal experience from 40+ years ago is that it does diminish drive and ambition.)</p>
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		By: L.A.RamsFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.A.RamsFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 01:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Damn! You mean if I would been even smarter, faster, able to leep taller buildings with less than a single bound, stronger and be better looking (if that&#039;s even possible) if I&#039;d only stopped burnin&#039; &#039;em when I was 12? Well Hell Then! The damage is already done! Someone pass me the pipe with that good OG Cush so the my 60 years WILL be so stunted...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn! You mean if I would been even smarter, faster, able to leep taller buildings with less than a single bound, stronger and be better looking (if that&#8217;s even possible) if I&#8217;d only stopped burnin&#8217; &#8217;em when I was 12? Well Hell Then! The damage is already done! Someone pass me the pipe with that good OG Cush so the my 60 years WILL be so stunted&#8230;</p>
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		By: Vagabond		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vagabond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 00:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://new.calcoastnews.com/2016/09/not-just-pot-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-184699&quot;&gt;the situation&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not an opinion if someone states facts that are not true, it&#039;s a lie
 You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts 
 &quot;Additionally, those legal states are not seeing the taxes they were promised. The money is going to the wealthy investors and not to society as projected.&quot;
.http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2016/08/oregon_collects_255_million_in.html

Oregon was projected to only get about 8 million, instead they get 25 million.

 As for the rest of her &quot;opinion&quot; here is an article that actually has some direct information:


http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2016/06/oregon_marks_1_year_anniversar.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://new.calcoastnews.com/2016/09/not-just-pot-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-184699">the situation</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not an opinion if someone states facts that are not true, it&#8217;s a lie<br />
 You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts<br />
 &#8220;Additionally, those legal states are not seeing the taxes they were promised. The money is going to the wealthy investors and not to society as projected.&#8221;<br />
.<a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2016/08/oregon_collects_255_million_in.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2016/08/oregon_collects_255_million_in.html</a></p>
<p>Oregon was projected to only get about 8 million, instead they get 25 million.</p>
<p> As for the rest of her &#8220;opinion&#8221; here is an article that actually has some direct information:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2016/06/oregon_marks_1_year_anniversar.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2016/06/oregon_marks_1_year_anniversar.html</a></p>
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		By: Vagabond		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vagabond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 00:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WOW this article is so full of manufactured BS !
 &quot;We are failing to educate on the negative effects of this popular drug leaving our youth at risk. In the 60’s and 70’s marijuana’s THC content was roughly 1 to 3 percent. Today the THC tests at around 15 to 25 percent on average, and in concentrated forms, up to 98 percent. This classifies today’s cannabis as an hallucinogenic drug that has grave outcomes for developing brains.&quot;
 Fact: It is illegal to give or supply cannabis to minors in any state, this is a false canard!
 &quot;We are now seeing dramatic increases in psychotic episodes, triggering schizophrenia and other mental illnesses, as well as major depression and anxiety disorders. Since this new strain of marijuana–which took effect in the past decade–we have yet to realize the impacts that long term use will have on society&quot;
 Fact: Legal cannibis has only been available for sale for less than 5 years and legal weed has the amount of THC and CBD clearly labeled on the package NO STUDY HAS BEEN CONDUCTED on the effects of legal weed THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
&quot;Additionally, those legal states are not seeing the taxes they were promised. The money is going to the wealthy investors and not to society as projected.&quot;
 Another outright lie, Oregon is benefiting from over 24 million dollars in taxes that would have otherwise gone into black market pockets
 This article is so full of BS that I can&#039;t believe it. If you doubt me, come up to Oregon and see for yourself! These same BS arguments were spread all over up here before legalization AND NOT ONE SINGLE ONE of them came true!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW this article is so full of manufactured BS !<br />
 &#8220;We are failing to educate on the negative effects of this popular drug leaving our youth at risk. In the 60’s and 70’s marijuana’s THC content was roughly 1 to 3 percent. Today the THC tests at around 15 to 25 percent on average, and in concentrated forms, up to 98 percent. This classifies today’s cannabis as an hallucinogenic drug that has grave outcomes for developing brains.&#8221;<br />
 Fact: It is illegal to give or supply cannabis to minors in any state, this is a false canard!<br />
 &#8220;We are now seeing dramatic increases in psychotic episodes, triggering schizophrenia and other mental illnesses, as well as major depression and anxiety disorders. Since this new strain of marijuana–which took effect in the past decade–we have yet to realize the impacts that long term use will have on society&#8221;<br />
 Fact: Legal cannibis has only been available for sale for less than 5 years and legal weed has the amount of THC and CBD clearly labeled on the package NO STUDY HAS BEEN CONDUCTED on the effects of legal weed THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE.<br />
&#8220;Additionally, those legal states are not seeing the taxes they were promised. The money is going to the wealthy investors and not to society as projected.&#8221;<br />
 Another outright lie, Oregon is benefiting from over 24 million dollars in taxes that would have otherwise gone into black market pockets<br />
 This article is so full of BS that I can&#8217;t believe it. If you doubt me, come up to Oregon and see for yourself! These same BS arguments were spread all over up here before legalization AND NOT ONE SINGLE ONE of them came true!</p>
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		By: rukidding		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2016 23:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All of the government entities are looking the other way regarding what will really happen when MJ is legalized which I think it will. All that they are looking at is the money that they can make on the licensing fees, taxes etc. that they may collect to add to their salaries and benefit packages.
The real problem is like the article states is the strength of today&#039;s MJ. drug. Related crimes will skyrocket putting a heavier burden on our police departments and the judicial system. Prop. 57 will release even more &quot;non-violent&quot; drug dealers back onto the street. This is Governor Brown&#039;s way of possibly releasing up to 25,000 felons back onto the streets and into our neighborhoods to reduce the cost of prisons. What a great formula, legalize MJ and put more dealers back onto the streets.
The really sad part will be the auto fatalities that will rise due to this. Also the crime spree will increase as there will be more robberies and burglaries to support the needs of the druggies-most of which do not work from 8-5 to support their habits. In 5-10 years we will be asking what have they done?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the government entities are looking the other way regarding what will really happen when MJ is legalized which I think it will. All that they are looking at is the money that they can make on the licensing fees, taxes etc. that they may collect to add to their salaries and benefit packages.<br />
The real problem is like the article states is the strength of today&#8217;s MJ. drug. Related crimes will skyrocket putting a heavier burden on our police departments and the judicial system. Prop. 57 will release even more &#8220;non-violent&#8221; drug dealers back onto the street. This is Governor Brown&#8217;s way of possibly releasing up to 25,000 felons back onto the streets and into our neighborhoods to reduce the cost of prisons. What a great formula, legalize MJ and put more dealers back onto the streets.<br />
The really sad part will be the auto fatalities that will rise due to this. Also the crime spree will increase as there will be more robberies and burglaries to support the needs of the druggies-most of which do not work from 8-5 to support their habits. In 5-10 years we will be asking what have they done?</p>
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		By: the situation		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the situation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2016 23:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although I disagree with Ms. Belsher 100%, I am thankful that we have a news source in town that will publish editorials written from any point of view, not just from people who support their political agenda.  Karen Velie once said that she would publish an editorial from Adam Hill if he ever submitted a piece to CCN.  Seeing this article, the recent piece written by Allan Cooper, and many others throughout the years, I would say that Karen has proven herself to be a woman of her word.  Perhaps our local newspaper will follow suit?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I disagree with Ms. Belsher 100%, I am thankful that we have a news source in town that will publish editorials written from any point of view, not just from people who support their political agenda.  Karen Velie once said that she would publish an editorial from Adam Hill if he ever submitted a piece to CCN.  Seeing this article, the recent piece written by Allan Cooper, and many others throughout the years, I would say that Karen has proven herself to be a woman of her word.  Perhaps our local newspaper will follow suit?</p>
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		By: Snoid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snoid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2016 23:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So you&#039;re sayin the $10 lid of mexican dog weed I bought back in 78 was garbage? Pffffftttttt...]]></description>
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